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The Ukrainian Brides Scam Gets Pulled on My Friend

Most of the world by now is familiar with Ukrainian brides. You’ve heard the stories—Western men, desperate for love and companionship, journey to faraway places like Ukraine or Russia in the hopes of meeting Eastern European women. They hope to find lifelong love.

Unfortunately, those fairytales stories rarely come true. Today I feel the need to share a Ukrainian bride horror story/scam that was recently pulled on an acquaintance of mine.

To give some backstory, I met this guy in July 2016 in Odessa, Ukraine. While my memory is slightly foggy, he was around 55 years old and lived on the east coast of the United States. He was in town because he’d met a girl on a foreign bride site, and was considering getting her a visa to come live with him. He’d plan to spend about ten days in Odessa, albeit that girl lived about an hour outside of the city.

I believe he also had plans to meet one other girl, so he wasn’t putting all his eggs in one basket. Reasonable if you’re going to fly around the world to meet someone on the internet. I have no idea how it turned out with any other girls he was due to meet. However, these are his two nightmares stories.

Odessa, July 2016

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He arrives in Odessa, and I think the day after he went out to this far city to meet the girl. Why she didn’t meet him at the airport is beyond me (more on that later). Apparently this first meet went reasonably well—well enough that he decided it was a worthwhile invest to buy her a brand-new $2,000 iMac.

I’m sure you can see where this is about to go.

For the remainder of his nine days in Odessa, he saw this girl once. And again, he had to take a taxi way out to her town or village outside of Odessa. She made no efforts to see him again, repeatedly blowing him off because she was “busy” with a number of excuses. Work, family, tired—you name it, she used it.

He was obviously quite upset with these developments. Apparently, her friend who he met on one of his trips messaged him at the end, saying that, “If it doesn’t work out with [name], you and I could be together.”

The girl he had flown all the way around the world for couldn’t be bothered to take him to the airport, either. She basically blew him off, but low and below, as soon as he returned to the States, she was messaging him.

“It was moving so fast and I miss you, can we try again?”

“I am ready to be with you now, but I need money to do [XYZ] before I can come to America.”

Typical sob stories told by Ukrainian brides as a way to scam men out of their money. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure there are Ukrainian brides who genuinely want to find a nice guy and get married. Scams like this though are a dime a dozen.

Odessa Brides is an excellent book on the subject.

It sucked for the American guy, but making those kind of huge financial purchases right off the bat are a surefire way to get yourself screwed. Despite the obviousness of the situation to an outsider, it happens. Love clouds judgment.

But…

Fool Me Once, Shame On You…

…fool me twice, shame on me.

Yeah, the same guy was the “victim” of yet another Ukrainian brides scam less than six months after the first one. This time it was even worse, but it reads almost the same.

Again, he met a girl on a dating website or agency, the majority of which are scams in Ukraine.

Any website that charges you an exuberant fee by the minute to message a girl, to translate, or any other add-ons are a surefire scam. Stay away from them. Look for sites like Ukraine Date that have a one-time fee that allow you unlimited messages and no hidden add-ons that gouge you left and right.

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He meets this girl, and again he “falls in love”. Over the internet. “She” is gorgeous (the young one), you can see for yourself:

Before he knows it (within two months), they’re making arrangements for her to come to the United States and live with him. He starts sending her money so she can obtain her visa, as well as giving her some other money for miscellaneous expenses.

He does all of this without bothering to Skype or FaceTime with her to verify she is the girl in the photos.

Attempt #1

The day finally arrives.

She’s heading to the United States, but has to travel for a layover in Istanbul first. While she’s in Istanbul, she gets a phone call. Her mother is dead. She has to fly back ASAP, and could he please send some money to help with the funeral arrangements?

A month later, things are better. The funeral is taken care of, but now she has nobody else left for her. She wants to leave the country and come live with him in the US. However, more money is obviously needed to fix any visa issues. He sends it.

She’s finally on the plane, and bound for American soil. This time, there’s no dead moms to get in the way of happiness and everlasting love. You’d think, right?

Attempt #2

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The look on a foreign bride’s face after she gets a $2,000 iMac…

Everything was going great, until she landed. She calls him and tells him that she’s held up at customs, she can’t get through. She’s not sure they will allow her into the US. He tries to solve the problem, and ends up just upsetting her. Then she calls to tell him that she’s through customs, but angry at him. She goes to a hotel. I don’t know whether she asked him to transfer money for the hotel, but it wouldn’t surprise me.

This fella, obviously petrified of losing his foreign bride before he even meets her in person, starts calling her. Non-stop. He figures out what hotel she checked in to, and drives there. He calls her once and leaves a message that he is there, waiting for her. Ten minutes later he calls again.

The phone number had been disconnected completely.

He waits around for four hours, trying repeatedly. He never gets an answer. He has not heard from her since, and I’m sure he never will. More than likely, the girl in the photo has no idea who he is. The girl he’s been talking with is clearly just sitting on her computer in Ukraine, bleeding him dry to the tune of nearly $5,000.

What does he have to show for it? Absolutely nothing. 

Are Ukrainian Brides Scamming Men All The Time?

There are good Ukrainian girls out there in the world, but you’re certainly not going to find them on a foreign bride site in most cases. The odds are hedged against you. If you have the money to afford these kind of agencies, to pay the bills from afar, and to buy gifts—then guess what?

You have the money to get on a plane, rent an apartment in Ukraine, and just live a normal life while meeting nice, normal Ukrainian women in your day-to-day life. 

Sure, jobs might impact this, but if you’re at a point in life where you’ve got the money to blow, surely you can afford to take a week or two off work. You’re likely to have a better experience rather than endlessly hunting and getting scammed by Ukrainian brides.

To wrap this up, I obviously feel sorry for the guy. But you can’t fix stupid. I can only hope that not all men make the same (repeated) mistakes when it comes to Ukrainian brides.

Stay smart,

UL

PS: Go meet some normal girls on Ukraine Date before you do anything with a dating or marriage agency. A $30 investment is a heck of a lot less than $5,000. Click here to sign up.

  • January 3, 2017
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Brock Robinson (@TheCityBachelor)

A classic tell is when they get angry at you when you try to FaceTime or get some kind of legit social media for authentication.

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    Ukraine Living

    Exactly. They will travel the world to meet but won’t FaceTime for 5 minutes?

    Some dudes are unreal.

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eddie_7

“You have the money to get on a plane, rent an apartment in Ukraine, and just live a normal life while meeting nice, normal Ukrainian women in your day-to-day life.”

Excellent point you make there!
Like you said, even though there might be some girls on these mail brides genuinely looking for marriage/LTR, the risks are quite high especially when a western man brings a foreign bride to his country. Many tragic cases in which the foreign bride, upon realizing her high SMV in the west(compared to obese western girls) she decides to “upgrade” for another man.
Personally my plans are to first learn about a foreign culture and language then to permanently move there. Taking time to form social circles and knowing the family and background of potential brides allows better vetting and screening out of the types of girls like the one you mentioned in the above story. If the girl has a strong and healthy relationship with her father I’ve heard this is a major green flag and a good sign. I think keeping the bride there in her country and encouraging her to maintain cultural and family ties should lessen the risk of divorce rape that is common in the west.

This is slightly off topic but I was somehow suddenly reminded of an article by roissy(heartiste) talking about what the career choice of a woman shows about her level of femininity. He goes on to state that an elementary school teacher is “pure gold” and has the qualities of “Cute, thin (it’s a workout chasing kids all day), ultra feminine, nurturing, selfless, caring” as well as supposedly “low maintenance due to the nature of her workplace environment sequestering her from the attentions of men”. Not sure if true but an interesting claim nonetheless. He says that the best ones teach grades 1 to 5. He claims that day care supervisors are “too toddler-focused and will love the baby more than you”. Here I think he does raise the issue when wives sometimes put their children way ahead of their husband and thus “forget” that they are a wife and neglect their husband. If left to continue this type of arrangement might lead to the couple being mere co-parents and roommates instead of lovers. I’m not saying for wives to neglect the children, I just think that a married woman should focus on being a good wife firstly then a good mother after that. It’s a matter of priorities. He goes on to say that “high school teachers are too stressed out form their job to properly service your manly needs at home” lol. Although this particular article heartiste wrote is quite light-hearted and tongue in cheek, he does make an interesting point so I thought I’d share it here. I think everyone has their own unique and different niche to search for potential partners, but the elementary school teacher does seem like a niche worth investigating. It’s also a plus if a man decides to home school his children.

Apologies for the off the tangent wall of text I wrote above lol.

Anyway I have three question for you, Kyle:
In your personal opinion what is the limit of the age gap between the man and a Ukrainian woman that will still reasonably ensure a high chance of a healthy and sustainable LTR/marriage?

Is an age gap of 15 years realistic(such as when the man is 35 years old while the Ukrainian girl is 20 years old)?
Will her family and relatives mind if the man is 35 yrs while the girl is 20?

I think 30 years age gap is a bit too much. My dad did that with my mom and it didn’t go well at all.

By the way I enjoyed reading your book “King’s Code”. I found it clear, succinct and straight to the point! 🙂

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    Ukraine Living

    “Is an age gap of 15 years realistic(such as when the man is 35 years old while the Ukrainian girl is 20 years old)?
    Will her family and relatives mind if the man is 35 yrs while the girl is 20?”

    Neither her nor her family would blink an eye provided you have your shit together.

    Glad you enjoyed the book!

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      COLIN RICHES

      I HAVE MET ON THE INTERNET A 31 YEAR OLD WITH A SON 7,SHE IS IN KIEV AT PRESENT TO OBTAIN A VISA FOR THE TRAVEL TO UK, SHE HAS NOT ASKED FOR MONEY,AND ASKED FOR A BRIDE VISAS.SHE CAME TO ME ON A TRANSLATION AGENCY VIA G MAIL,AND HAS TO PAY 150 DOLLARS TO USE IT AS SHE HAS NO COMPUTER, SHE LIVES IN THE WAR PART OF UKRAINE, AND WAS DIVORCED 2 YEARS AGO, CAN YOU COMMENT ATALL PLEASE. VERY NEW TO THIS. MANY THANKS IF YOU CAN.

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        Ukraine Living

        Dude, come on.

        You’re about to get taken to the cleaners and you know it. I would stay far, far away if I were you.

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        David Brunner

        Colin if you get scammed you can’t blame anyone but yourself. You know that woman is fake.

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guy

wow crazy story, nice word of warning to first time visitors, lots of good girls out there but you cant trust em all

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AC81

so ive been “dating” a girl from ukraine for a few months now. i read all these articles about the risk of scams and i cant say i was completly doubt free but im quite confident about the honesty of her and the relationship. I did not meet her on one of these dating sites. but we started chatting one day and enjoyed the conversations. Her english is quite good and we started talking on skype, we both send msgs every day and talk once or twice a week for the past 10 weeks. We email pictures to each other all the time, like things we r doing, places we go etc, and we both have sent more intimate pics;) Shes a student just finishing university, doesnt really work yet, and has little support from family. She has asked me for financial help if its possible. now Im not an idiot, and would never throw money away i didnt have to spend. Ive given her some money, now and again, to help her. i can afford to. and shes appreciative of that, and she understands when i say i cant, and ive tested that a few times. Ive seen where she lives everyday in a rented flat while attending school, and its not a nice place. Life there, i understand, can be a bit more difficult compared to western society. Shes given me a lot of details about her life, family, everything….she even asked to travel to meet me so we can spend time together in person. I said id go to ukraine to meet but she would rather come here, id rather her come here too:)

Im not looking for validation on what im doing, im pretty careful, and have no problem pulling the plug if things got suspicious. I guess i want to show that there are good outcomes possible…not everything is a scam…just be smart and be sure b4 u blow all your money. i see this as an investment. building communication and a relationship with a quality woman…and lets be honest, id be spending money at bars or on dates at home trying to find a woman here…so whats the difference….

cheers

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    Ukraine Living

    So you send money to a girl you have never met?

    You’re rationalizing it to yourself. You’re getting scammed. Not in a direct way, but you’re still being taken for a ride.

    Sorry to be the one to burst your bubble, but you’re living in a fantasy world until you meet. I’d suggest you put the brakes on, now.

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Joe

The guy wasn’t too smart to buy her such an expensive gift. That being said, I have been there many times and I’d never go without video chatting with the girl first to get a feel for how interested they are in you. These girls are all born liars and if you are looking there, it is unlikely you will get a good girl even if you are careful and smart. The girls that are very hot, know it, and use it every chance they get. If you are okay with an average looking girl, or one that is kind of fat, you have a chance. Don’t buy them anything except small gifts of affection. They will rob you blind if you give them the chance. I advise All men to start looking in the Philippines. The girls there are everything the lying agencies promise about the Ukraine and Russian girls. They are not as hot, but many are cute and very friendly and kind hearted. They, and everyone in the country are nice, and speak English. It is a very catholic country and it shows. They don’t care about the age difference and they are sincere to find a good man. Philippine girls write me all the time that are 30 years younger than me and neither they nor their family mind at all. Some of them are SCAMMERS too, but the percentages are about 70-30 with 70% or higher being serious. Ukraine and Russia are about 90-10 with 90% or more being scammers. I know that most guys fall into the trap of thinking that something that is beautiful is good, but it couldn’t be further from the truth in this case. Lying is a way of life over there and they are the most cold-blooded bitches I have ever met. They think it is your fault for being dumb enough to believe them and have no remorse for hurting and robbing men. Stay away from the Ukraine and Russia unless you are filthy rich, don’t care about money, and are under 40 years old. If you are that kind of guy, you probably don’t need to go there in the first place to find a good woman. The Philippine girls are far superior and after looking for about 10 years in lots of counties, I think it is the best chance men have for success.

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    Ukraine Living

    Why don’t you just learn a little game and avoid the forum bride scenarios?

    As in go without anything lined up.

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